Kai Zion
Amarr
The Zion Accounts
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:12:00 -
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Murtala your idea is flawed from inception, interesting and noble as it is. It's flawed for pretty much the same reason that alliances like CFS, Xetic and ASCN fell apart:
Sheperds and Sheep.
The moment you split individuals into just one of those roles is the moment you make them lose a vital part of their independence. Vital in terms of lasting success, that is. To put it more dramatically, it's the moment you turn them into what are ultimately, when it matters, useless slaves.
In a situation of co-dependency you cannot build people into self-reliant fighter-industrialists, can you? You cannot build a successful and more importantly, a lasting foundation on that. Eventually that little house of cards will come down.
Look at the entities of Eve where each individual member is capable of looking after themselves both economically and militarily. It's no coincidence that they see the lasting successes they do. You can't break them anywhere near as easily as a tiered co-dependent structure:
- There is no weak point, no foundational layer of soft targets that you can attack. When you fight them you are fighting their scientists alongside their fleet commanders, their production and refining experts alongside the battle-hardened soldiers. In your crosshairs you see only a fleet of willing combatants perpetually at the ready to fight.
- There is no Fighter/Industrialist dichotomy to weaken them, no in-fighting to be exploited between the various "classes". No fighters claiming they "do all the work" and no industrialists claiming "they're never appreciated".
And so on...but not only are they hard to defeat, they're also concurrently achieving things at a far more efficient rate than a split, tiered system can. If lasting success is what you ultimately judge an entity by, not fleeting moments of glory - then you can see what I mean by "efficient" here. Not necessarily the biggest or the baddest - but a system built to last from the atomic level (each individual, in this case, represents the "atom").
So no, you can't "invite a carebear alliance" to space you claim to police and protect and build some lasting empire. If any group in the empire you build is dependent upon anyone other than themselves for their survival, eventually it will break down. It can take a long time, but it will always happen. Eventually there will come a day when there's more wolves than there are sheperds and it will get quite bloody indeed... ^,..,^
It's no coincidence that Star Fraction visited your previous thread, by the way. When it comes to successful approaches to the sorts of things you seek, they're one of the only ones in this whole cluster with an answer that has stood the test of time and hardship. One of the things that makes them unique amongst that small group is that they'll share those "secrets" with anyone who cares to listen, they're quite proud of them and I'd say rightly so. Quite a few have listened too, over the years. It's why I'm telling you this now, in fact. I started a thread much like this a long time ago and I ended up finding out the things I'm telling you now that way.
We have a little circle of life going on here...
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